Benson Leung, Google’s go-to man for all things USB Type-C, wattage, and amps, has detailed the exact charging spec for the Pixel 2 and Pixel 2 XL. This is perfect for all of us who need to know specifically what types of chargers we’ll need to ensure these phones charge not only quickly, but safely.
As detailed by Benson, 18W Type-C + PD (power delivery) power adapters are what ship with the new Pixel 2 devices, but not only that, Google’s new phones can support up to 27W charging from compliant PD chargers.
UPDATE: Or maybe not! Benson has updated his initial post with the following message:
I’d like to clarify this post as Pixel 2 and 2 XL will not be able to support 27W charging. While the phones may be able to negotiate more power using USB Power Delivery when connected to a higher wattage charger, there are other factors which may limit the speed at which it charges the battery. The included 18W charger in the box will provide optimal charging for Pixel 2 and 2 XL. Sorry for the confusion!
Also noted, something that is quite cool, Android 8.0 “Oreo” implements Type-C and PD support using the new Type-C Port Manager in the Linux kernel. This is specifically for 1st-gen Pixel and 2nd-gen Pixel devices, which is good!
Keep in mind, Google made the “Made For Google” accessory certification program official this week, which means if you are in search for a compliant 3rd-party charger for your Pixel device, that should be easier to do now.
Ok, so here’s my question. I’ve never seen this asked before anywhere, and I’m guessing there’s a reason for that and I’m going to look like an idiot.
I would like two chargers. I would like one that will charge my new Pixel 2 XL quickly, for use during the day. I would also like one that would be more of a trickle charge that I can use at night. Is this even possible? I guess I could charge it with my laptop, but I don’t keep a laptop next to my bed… What does everyone do with their phones at night? Leave them off the cord and charge them in the morning? Do batteries still get damaged when they charge past 100%? Have they not figured out a way to stop the charging once the battery is full? I know these are all things I should know… but I’ve never seen answers to these before.
So I ordered my Pixel 2XL and then immediately ordered a ton of the Anker PowerLine+ cables since I have zero usb-c cables. Then I find this link to Benson’s spreadsheet and I’m freaking out.
Would love some guidance.
Are the Pixel 1 & 2 PD 1.0 or 2.0? Or are they different?
And apparently the USB-C port won’t even work at all with normal 3.5mm jack headphones (with adapter), without an external DAC or something. So not only did they do away with the headphone jack, they did away with headphone usage altogether, besides a few select USB-C ones that are specially certified to work.
No AT-50’s (etc) with the Pixels, folks.
Still hoping to find some info on this not being true, but it seems to be what’s being reported over on AP.
Epic fail.
It will work with any pair of headphones you throw at it IF you use the included adapter.
If you want more adapters, all you have to do is make sure you get the right kind.
It’s something different from all black; it’s what I ordered from Verizon. The lighter colors are nice however I’m not a fan of the white fronts. This year I was really hoping for that blue color again with a black front!
You can use a higher wattage charger than 27W. That rating states what the charger is capable of supplying. Current is drawn, not pushed. In fact, using a higher wattage rated charger is better, since the charger is capable of handling more current. Provided the charger meets the PD spec, it should be OK.
I don’t get why everyone likes the Panda.
What’s not to love about pandas, they chill all day and eat bamboo.
It’s something different from all black; it’s what I ordered from Verizon. The lighter colors are nice however I’m not a fan of the white fronts. This year I was really hoping for that blue color again with a black front!
I like the panda when it’s entirely white on the back and entirely black on the front. The mix of black & white on the back is too much contrast for me.
This. You just described my good old OG Moto X Verizon Developer Edition! Looked nice like that.
Agree, that nice blue was ruined by the white front. A shame.
It’s not a Panda. It’s a storm trooper.
Too much black to be a storm trooper
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/5c0c7911a3cae8a0aaa4c56932ddfc292d855274aee5014f9a2bf1c384dcdc99.gif
Yep- Its an ass-kicking storm trooper- lol
I hated the two tone of the original pixels, and was apprehensive at first about these, but the panda look has grown on me. Different, and presumably more durable.
Personal Preference. Come on.
Agree, it looks awful. Maybe less awful on person, who knows.. but yeah I don’t get it either. I guess it’s supposed to be some ad for “Oreo”, but a $1000 phone with a gimmicky paint job that’ll be outdated in a year? No thanks.
I would like more information in this article. It’s hard to know what charger to buy for the pixels. I’ve looked and looked. They either cost $40 or are dangerous. most chargers out there get bad safety ratings by these guys. And are not spec compliant. I don’t get it. Why not stick to Qualcomm 2.0 and 3.0 or at least enable it. It’s such an inconvenience
This uses the more standard USB charging for high-powered devices called “Power Delivery”. Qualcomm’s QC is less standardized as it depends on proprietary technology that’ll never be adopted by devices without Qualcomm chips. For example, PD is the standard that pretty much all laptops use. Additionally, this standard supports faster charging than what QC supports.
Ultimately, if you get a PD charger that supports 27W, you’re probably fine. Some companies are pushing proprietary charging standards, like Qualcomm and OnePlus, but those chargers are mostly only supported for a limited number of devices and will never pick up traction for nearly as many models of devices that PD supports.
Yes, it is about that there are so many different proprietary options right now. Once everybody jumps on the PD bandwagon, it’ll be better.
I assume this is 3A 9V to get to 27W?
Exactly
Yeah but something Droid life didn’t include Is the majority of chargers on Amazon are not spec compliant. And the guy who they quote from Google says they are dangerous and can damage the device and don’t follow the standard. And I’m including chargers by Aukey and Anker, etc.
So…which ones are and aren’t compliant? Exactly what are we looking for?
so will this charge with qualcomm quick charge 2.0 and 3.0 equipment?
Not that I know. The 1st pixel doesn’t and it sucks….
What pixel you have? Pixel charges pretty fast buddy.
I have a pixel XL. While the fast charging in the pixel is not bad… It is not the fastest. Actually if you look at articles they measure charging rates of fast charging tech (QC fast charge, Samsung fast charge, OPO dash charge, etc..) the pixel is the slowest. But I don’t even mind that…
My main problem is finding compliant fast chargers at an affordable price… with my s7 I could find $5 chargers that were QC compliant. And 15 or 20 dollar portable chargers… It’s so hard to find chargers that are not $40. And for portable chargers it is insane. Big ones are around $80
$13 wall charger by Aukey which Benson himself mentioned in his Google+ page… https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01LX063QN/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Thank you. Quick question is this charger recommended? I tried reading comments to find one. I don’t want to be negative. I really like my pixel I just think things could be made easier for customers. $40 is 5 percent of $800 it is not cheap at all…. I see Google is making progress with this program.
I think the USB spec has been evolving and developing and maybe the industry is not ready to have it as the only option
@Hack_er:disqus:
> which [‘Google’s go-to man for all things USB Type-C, wattage, and amps’] Benson himself mentioned in his Google+ page…
You:
> Quick question is this charger recommended?
That makes really no sense at all. The stock charger charges faster than QC2.0 and QC3.0…
Oh you mean the $40 stock charger? You can find QC chargers for 5 bucks ???? and have some around the house, at the office and in the car… What about portable chargers?
thats not the point, and i knew this ‘but i want to spend as little as possible’ response would creep up. Will quickcharge work? sure. Will it be to the same level and spec as whats indicated here? no. Gotta pay to play.
Why? Why not support QC 3.0 or 2.0 AND power delivery. Galaxy s8 supports both technologies. Chargers are expensive, hard to find and many that are out there by somewhat reputable brands are dangerous because the spec is sort of new and manufacturers don’t follow the spec totally…. Until now the made by Google program didn’t even exist
Because QC 3.0 violates PD specs
It will not fast charge with QC 2.0 or 3.0. It will fast charge with future QC 4.0 chargers since QC 4.0 is USB C PD compliant.
Not quickly, I’m pretty sure.
My aukey and anker 29W USB C PD chargers should work, right? The Apple 29W USB C power adapter should also work too. Google and Apple both use the same fast charging protocol.
the 29W profile apple uses is not USB C spec because the macbook non pro came out before it was finalized.
You have to have a real USB C adapter. And it has to be to be a 3amp charger that supports 9v. for example… a macbook pro 13″ charger supports 5, 9, 15 and 20v profile @ 3 amps for example.
the 60W chromebook charger i’m guessing works too. But chargers can support up to 5amp, and a certain voltage profile, and since this is a phone its probably going to want 9v * 3 amp. i’m guessing the stock charger is a 2amp 9v/5v charger.
Are you sure the MacBook charger isn’t using USB C PD? Apple recommends the 29W charger for fast charging the iphone X which uses USB C PD.
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